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Michael015
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#1 · Posted: 8 Mar 2010 23:16


Hello. My name is Michael and I am 17 years old. Hopefully you can provide some insight for me.

All of my 'problems' started in about 7th grade (currently in 11th). Basically, I get headaches everyday that start from minutes after I wake up until when I go to sleep. Which leads me to my next big issue: sleep. I cannot remember the last time I slept all the way through the night without waking. I wake up at least 2-3 times around midnight till 6 am usually. I get back to sleep relatively soon, but it's frustrating.

The reason this is a problem is because the next day I am ridiculously tired. I ALWAYS get 8-12 hours of sleep per night, mostly 9 or 10. I am exhausted the next day. More sleep doesn't help, less doesn't help either. I cannot stay awake during class and I am too tired to do any work after school.

In addition, last summer I was diagnosed with 'depression'. I am not sure how I feel about this, because it seems like such a cliche diagnosis. No one would ever guess this about me as I am a super happy, outgoing well-liked guy. My friends who know were shocked and confused and get frustrated when I talk to them. I saw a psychologist for 7 months and was put on and off Zoloft and Prozac (currently on 20mg, went up to 40-no effect). I do not believe medication will work. I do not think anything will anymore.

I made no progress with my psychologist, and many times I left even more frustrated and I hate myself even more. When finally my parents realized this wasn't working, I went to a psychiatrist. I've gone there maybe 4-5 times, he said he could help me in 2-3. He then told me he lied. All I ever do with therapists is have a nice friendly conversation as if I sat down with a friend of mine. So I asked why the HECK do we pay 250$/hour when I have friends. Theys said they provide a professional friendship. Oh. Okay. Cool. It's bogus. I have yet to receive any sort of benefit from them as opposed to anyone else.

So pretty much I hate my life, I hate my parents (I feel like they don't care), I hate some of my friends, my friends and parents are frustrated with me, I feel apathy towards almost everything, nothing is fun anymore, and I'm involved in activities up to my neck, and I'd rather die half the time than go to them because there's so much stress. However, I still manage a 3.55 in school. And slowly declining most likely as this is snowballing.

I have seen to no avail:
- Multiple therapists
- Multiple neurologists
- Gotten an MRI
- Actimiter monitor, showed nothing
- Amitryptaline, made me RIDICULOUSLY groggy
- Pediatrician

I'm looking into getting a sleep study, as well as going to a nutritionist to see if I have a food intolerance. My blood work shows that I am normal in those areas.



I don't know what to do anymore, each day is a nightmare and I am breaking down more frequently and I just can't handle it. I'm afraid I may do something stupid. Or run away to get attention.


Please help me. Please.

Vishal
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#2 · Posted: 8 Mar 2010 23:46 · Edited by: Vishal


Hi Michael,

Forget everything and practice meditation. The more you think about a problem, the more it gets worse. Trust me. Our mind has an amazing ability to complicate simple things. Now don't get me wrong. I don't say you do not have anything. I'm just saying that nothing is beyond the intelligence/life force that governs all of us. The life force that governs our body is far far more intelligent than our mind. For that to work efficiently, your mind needs to be relaxed. If the mind goes on, it'll consume all the energy and deplete our vital energies. Just realize deep in your heart that there is a life force that governs all of us and when you surrender to it and just be yourself, everything will be just fine. Nobody is born to be unhappy or diseased. Except for human beings, every creation in this universe is in a state of bliss. It is our mind that is the root of all problems. Just relax and let go and surrender to god/life force or whatever you wish to call it.

I suggest you get yourself a copy (or better still an audiobook version) of any of the below books. Listen to them for half an hour everyday before going to sleep.

1. The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle
2. The Miracle of Mindfulness by Thich Nhat Hanh

...And just forget and leave everything on god. You'll be just fine.

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Michael015
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#3 · Posted: 9 Mar 2010 09:39


I'm terrible at meditating though because I get distracted and just keep thinking about the problem. How could I not, when it's so in my face?

Vishal
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#4 · Posted: 9 Mar 2010 23:51 · Edited by: Vishal


Michael015:
I get distracted and just keep thinking about the problem.

Ah! That should make you realize how powerful the mind is. Just don't fight with your mind. Please read the book The Miracle of Mindfulness. Meditation must not be limited to sitting sessions alone. It won't be of any benefit if you meditate for half an hour and then the moment you get up, be your usual thinking/worrying self. Apply mindfulness to every moment of your life. To start with, reserve one day of your week completely to practicing mindfulness. Be aware of every single action you do and do it in a relaxed and slow fashion. Don't be in any hurry whatsoever. Just relax, be aware and be happy. Just one day. Once you do this you'll realize how energetic and peaceful you'll feel at the end of that day.

Now slowly take this practice to other days of the week. Start with morning time. This is important because if you start slowly, you'll end slowly. If you start your day with a rush and worry, it'll be difficult to deal with with your mind at the end of the day. Be aware of being mindful from the moment you get up. In other words, be in the present moment as much as you can.

Just practice this and see the difference it brings to your life and please read the book The Miracle of Mindfulness.

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humanhappyface
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#5 · Posted: 24 Mar 2010 15:40


Hi Michael. I am so empathetic about your problems...I can see how frustrated you have become. Even if you get lots of sleep, if your unconscious mind is still awake, it won't do you any good. It does sound like depression to me. Believe me when I say this - you can feel happy, outgoing and be well-liked and still have some "depression" within you. I have counseled hundreds of people over the years and for most anti-depressants do not resolve the problem. Did you know some meds will diminish your sexual drive, and put you in a state of "middle of the line" - often diminishing a "passion" - about anything. As far as pychologists, the majority of my clients found no held there either. Years and years of counseling and nada for results.
You've done every "trick" in the book so far except "self-medication and healing." Don't hate your parents as they probably just don't get the depth of your horror about all this. Don't hate yourself. You are NOT A FAILURE. This is such a difficult time for anyone, and I do understand your frustration - HONESTLY!
I am glad your blood work is good. You might as well go to a nutritionist as allergies do play hell with the body. But DO NOT
GIVE UP. DO NOT GIVE IN!

Vishal is right about beginning to search in this area. With everything you have going and the pressure of school I know it seems unlikely this will help, but ultimately it is your BEST and ONLY real opportunity to turn things around.

I worked with a young man who knew nothing about meditation, mindfulness, the use of oxygen, or any relaxation techniques. He did know he wanted to play major league baseball. He WORKED AND PRACTICED as dedicated as he would have for any sport or school activity or work. Guess what? He plays for a major league team and pitched a no hitter his first game. He said it was my doing. It wasn't.
He wanted something with such passion he was willing to change his life and do what it took.

It sounds to me like you need to make some life altering decisions. No one can change your life except you! If you want to email me for more help (FREE) of course, please do so. I would like to offer you a CD that you can begin to make changes (no charge to you). I write a website on stress management and relaxation techniques. I don't sell anything but am trying to share. We all need help sometimes! My email is stressmanagementmagic@gmail.com and I will be happy to see what I can do to help if YOU are ready to begin. It's in your hands now.

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Marsha J. O'Brien
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#6 · Posted: 28 Apr 2010 13:31


Hi! You should try meditating... My sympathy to your sad experience. It does not do well when you feel that no body cares about you. Won't you try taking a vacation somewhere where nature is?

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writerros
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#7 · Posted: 5 May 2010 11:56


Hi. Yes, I agree that meditation can be a great help - but I understand how you feel about it. I find it difficult too.

I have suffered from Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for about 10 years, and I was wondering as I read your post whether anyone has ever thought of this? There is no test for it, but doctors should have taken blood tests, and these should eliminate other serious problems.

There are still some doctors who don't recognise CFS as an illness, which is infuriating for those of us who experience it - but thankfully it is becoming more and more recognised in the medical world.

Does your body ache? Do you find if you exercise, you feel worse afterwards, rather than energised? Does your body feel heavy?

It may not be this, but I just thought you might want to check it out.

I manage my CFS with eating healthily, exercising moderately, doing yoga and making sure I rest as much as possible. I take natural herbal (non-addictive) tablets to help me sleep.

Hope this helps.

Ros

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